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EDITORIAL · DAVID EBY · CBC’S THE EARLY EDITION · PUBLIC LAND

David Eby got roasted on CBC the day before the vote. He said DRIPA is “not barely mentioned” in his platform. His platform never names the law that frames decisions on Crown land.

On CBC Radio One’s The Early Edition on 23 October, guest host Lyndsay Duncombe pressed the BC NDP leader on a broken rebate, a doctor at his breaking point, DRIPA, LNG and his snap election. A 212-second cut went viral by lunchtime. We transcribed all 17 minutes and checked his answers: he owned the rebate, could not say what he would cut, and said DRIPA was in a platform that never names it. No one asked him about public access to Crown land.

Shortly after eight on Friday morning, the day before Final Voting Day, David Eby sat down at a CBC microphone in Vancouver. The BC NDP leader and premier was the guest on The Early Edition, CBC Radio One’s morning show, and the host that day was Lyndsay Duncombe of CBC News, filling in for Stephen Quinn.1,2

David Eby, in a dark suit and open white shirt, speaks into a microphone with CBC logos in a radio studio.
It’s not barely mentioned. David Eby, BC NDP leader, on The Early Edition, 23 October 2026, at 12:32. Frame: CBC News, from the clip re-uploaded by Surrey City News.

Twelve minutes in, Duncombe reminded him that in the spring he had called changes to DRIPA, the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Act, so important that he was ready to go to an election over them. “Why is DRIPA barely mentioned in your platforms?” she asked. “It’s not barely mentioned.” Eby replied.1

DRIPA is the law under which the Province now shares decisions about Crown land with First Nations, and provincial Crown land is 94 per cent of British Columbia. It is the land the public hunts, fishes, rides and camps on, by default and for free. The premier’s platform, as his party published it that day, does not contain the word DRIPA. It was the sharpest moment of the interview, and the closest anyone came to asking him about the land itself.3,4

By 12:30 that afternoon a 212-second cut of the interview was on YouTube, credited to “CBC News” and titled as 200 seconds of “Tough Questions.” It is the version most people have seen. We found the original, transcribed all 17 minutes from CBC’s own audio, and checked what Eby said against the record.5

01 CBC gave David Eby 17 minutes on The Early Edition. The viral cut keeps every hard question and about 44 seconds of his answers.

The 212-second cut, re-uploaded to YouTube by Surrey City News; the original is CBC Radio One’s The Early Edition, 23 October 2026. The cut carries the logo of Canada Proud. Watch on YouTube5

The original: CBC Radio One, The Early Edition, 23 October 2026. David Eby with Lyndsay Duncombe, 17 minutes 41 seconds. CBC publishes it as audio; we found no CBC video of the full interview.

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CBC’s Regional Broadcast Centre in Vancouver, home of CBC Vancouver and its morning show, The Early Edition. Photo: Wpcpey, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

The original runs 17 minutes 41 seconds, and Eby speaks for roughly 11 of them. The cut begins six minutes in, after his answers on SkyTrain for Surrey and on the deficit. From there it keeps Duncombe’s questions almost whole and trims most of Eby’s answers to their first sentence or two. Of its 212 seconds, about 44 are Eby speaking. Within the part it uses, it drops one question entirely, and it is the one he answered worst.1,5

The cut’s caption says Eby was “REPEATEDLY HUMILIATED.” The full tape is less one-sided than that, and on three points it is worse for him than the cut shows. Here is each exchange, with what he said and what the record says.

02 Eby owned the $1,000 grocery rebate he never paid. Asked what he would cut next, he named nothing.

Duncombe, CBC · 6:31 · clip 0:12

How can people trust the promises you’re making in this election if you didn’t live up to the promises that you made before?

Eby · 6:42 · clip 0:20

“It was a really difficult decision. I really wanted to deliver that. I know a lot of people were counting on it.”

Cut from the clip: “But that was the beginning of the trade war from the U.S.” and “It’s like a family, you know, when you have a budget and you have unexpected things happen, you have to reallocate.”

The record backs the admission. The NDP promised every household a $1,000 grocery rebate in the October 2024 campaign. In February 2025 the government cancelled it before a dollar was paid, calling it a $2-billion expense it could not carry into a trade war. Brenda Bailey, then the Finance Minister, said: “We made it with the intention of doing it, but the world has changed.” On this one he answered the question, and the cut leaves out his reason.6

Duncombe then asked the question the cut never shows. If the economy got worse, “what would you cut?” Eby began: “Yeah, that’s a great question.” He went on to say that “it’s always the unpredictable things that show up for governments.” He then spoke about his values and his record on car insurance and rents, and he named no program, ministry or line he would cut.1

For the backcountry that silence matters, because the backcountry is already where the cuts land. Budget 2026 trimmed BC Parks and Recreation Sites and Trails, and his costed plan has $0 for backcountry roads, rec sites or Target 8, the Province’s own goal for recreation access and resource roads.7

03 Asked about a Lions Gate doctor at his breaking point, Eby pointed to a shortage across North America. Duncombe had to ask a second time for his plan.

Duncombe read from a post by Dr. Kevin McLeod, an internal medicine specialist at Lions Gate Hospital in North Vancouver, who had written that he was considering resigning over workloads and patient safety. Eby answered: “Well, there’s a huge challenge that we face in the province, but not just here.” He spoke about recruitment and then turned to the Conservatives’ plan, saying it held $5 billion in uncosted tax cuts; when we checked that figure after the leaders’ debate, we found no published tally that reaches it.1,8,9

Duncombe, CBC · 11:07 · clip 1:25

I’m not hearing from you, though, what you’re going to do specifically to address those overwhelming workloads and concerns about safety that are happening right now.

Eby · 11:22

“…tripling our recruitment from the United States… guaranteeing to nurses that we’re going to hit ratios of the number of nurses per patient…”

Cut from the clip: the whole of his second answer. The clip shows only “Absolutely.”

When she pressed, he gave her a plan: more recruitment from the United States, more training spaces and legislated nurse-to-patient ratios. The cut removes that answer and leaves the impression that he had none. The fair reading is that he reached for the opposition first and the specifics second.

04 Eby told CBC that DRIPA is “not barely mentioned” in his platform. His platform never names the law.

Eby defended the claim by describing the partnerships with First Nations that he said the Act enables, and said repealing it, as the Conservatives propose, would bring “economic chaos.” The work, he said, “is core to our economic plan for the entire province.” He closed: “We had a tough court decision. We have to find a path forward and we will find a path forward.”1

The platform page his party published, which we saved on the morning and the evening of 23 October, does not contain the words DRIPA or Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. It mentions First Nations as partners in major projects and mining. Partnerships are in the platform. The law, and the amendments he promised to it, are not.4

Those amendments have a record. On 2 April Eby said changing DRIPA was “non-negotiable,” and: “We have to do it, and we will do it.” Eighteen days later he and the First Nations Leadership Council announced: “The Government of B.C. will not be introducing legislation to suspend or amend DRIPA or UN Declaration-related provisions in the Interpretation Act, in the spring legislative session.” They promised solutions “before the fall legislative session.” There was no fall session. The legislature was dissolved for this election on 22 September with no bill introduced.3,10,11

For anyone who uses public land, this is the exchange that counts. DRIPA governs how the Province shares decisions about Crown land with First Nations, and the same reconciliation agenda sits behind the transfers his government is planning. Leaked Ministry of Forests documents set out about 400 pieces of Crown land to be transferred under treaties and reconciliation agreements, and across 40 pages they never mention public access. Asked about the law on the radio, Eby promised a path forward on the eve of the vote and did not say what it is.12,13

Eby said DRIPA is “not barely mentioned.” His platform does not name it, and his amendments never reached the House.

05 Eby called LNG “not everybody’s favourite thing.” He said he did not know he had lost a cabinet minister over it.

Duncombe read a text from a listener, Shirley, who asked why the NDP was sending flyers telling people not to vote Green when it had “done nothing but increase emissions with LNG.” Eby replied: “I know that LNG is not everybody’s favourite thing.” He added: “I’ve got members of my own team that are extremely anxious about LNG and fossil fuel expansion.”1

Duncombe then named Randene Neill, the Minister of Water, Land and Resource Stewardship, as speaking out against LNG at a forum, and said: “You lost a cabinet minister over these issues.” Eby answered: “I don’t know that I lost a cabinet minister over these issues. But I do understand that we have a big tent in the NDP.”1

David Eby listening, his mouth set, behind a CBC microphone.
I know that LNG is not everybody’s favourite thing. David Eby, BC NDP leader, on The Early Edition, at 14:06. Frame: CBC News, from the clip re-uploaded by Surrey City News.
David Eby, eyes lowered, at a CBC microphone.
I don’t know that I lost a cabinet minister over these issues. David Eby, BC NDP leader, on The Early Edition, at 14:53. Frame: CBC News, from the clip re-uploaded by Surrey City News.

Duncombe did not name the minister. The one who fits is Kelly Greene, Eby’s Minister of Emergency Management and Climate Readiness and the MLA for Richmond-Steveston. In July she publicly criticized FortisBC’s Tilbury LNG expansion, and Eby said he had helped write her statement and that his government is a “big tent.” On 22 September, the day after the Tilbury Phase 2 approvals, she announced she would not run again, in a letter that gave much of its space to LNG shipping risks: “I remain deeply concerned about risks posed by the Tilbury LNG shipping channel and have advocated for better safety standards for a decade.” She did not resign from cabinet, so his words are defensible. They are also a long way from what her own letter says.14

Neill matters to this site for another reason. She is the minister whose order in June replaced riders’ permits in the South Peace caribou closures with closures that have no expiry date. The cabinet table Eby described as a big tent is also the one that decides who gets onto the land.15

06 Eby said his government beats its deficit forecasts “every year.” The Province’s own books show a year it did not.

Before the cut begins, Duncombe asked how voters could trust his spending plans with a deficit near $14 billion. Eby said his platform was fully costed, and then: “we’ve exceeded our projections on deficits every year to the good, including last year.”1

The Public Accounts bear out the last two years. In 2024/25 the deficit came in $564 million lower than Budget 2024 forecast, and in 2025/26 it came in $3.2 billion lower than Budget 2025, a result the government itself attributes largely to a one-time $2.6-billion tobacco settlement. The year before that went the other way. In 2023/24 the deficit was $5.035 billion, $819 million higher than Budget 2023. “Every year” is not what the books show, and the cut leaves this exchange out entirely.16

07 Asked whether he regrets the snap election, Eby said he “got ahead of British Columbians.” It was the plainest answer he gave.

David Eby, looking down, speaking at a CBC microphone.
I have heard from a lot of British Columbians the frustration. David Eby, BC NDP leader, on The Early Edition, 23 October 2026, at 16:17. Frame: CBC News, from the clip re-uploaded by Surrey City News.

Duncombe, CBC · 16:09 · clip 3:06

Any regrets? If you were to go back and do it again a month ago, would you have said, nah, I’m just going to hold on for a while?

Eby · 16:20 · clip 3:12

“There’s no question that I got ahead of British Columbians in terms of my understanding of what was happening in the legislature and their understanding.”

Duncombe, CBC · 16:27 · clip 3:24

Is that regret?

Eby · 16:29 · clip 3:26

“It’s regret about not bringing British Columbians along on that issue.”

He said the same on his campaign bus that day, calling the call his “biggest regret” of the campaign. What he regrets is the explanation, not the election.17

08 In 17 minutes, no one asked David Eby about public access to Crown land. When he raised the land himself, it was to say his government is “protecting wild spaces.”

Duncombe asked about SkyTrain, deficits, the rebate, a doctor at his breaking point, DRIPA, LNG and the snap election. Those are fair questions, and she pressed him on several of them. None was about forest service roads, recreation sites, trail closures or who keeps the right to walk onto land the public owns.1

“British Columbians can have confidence that we are protecting wild spaces. We have money set aside to protect watersheds, old growth, to ensure when we do resource development it’s the lowest carbon in the world…”

David EbyDavid Eby, BC NDP leaderCBC, The Early Edition, 23 October 2026, at 15:271

Twice he raised the land himself, and both times it was as protection: in his first answer he listed “protecting our wild space” among his priorities, and at 15:27 he said the words above. The record behind those words is thin for the people who use the land. His environment plan pledges to “preserve public access” in its 30 by 30 promise and names no road, budget or rule to do it. The 30 by 30 agreement his minister signed never mentions public access, and his costed plan has $0 for backcountry roads, rec sites or Target 8.7,18,19

09 In our view, CBC roasted Eby fairly on DRIPA and the rebate. The question it never asked is the one that decides who gets into the backcountry.

The cut makes him look worse than the tape on health care and the rebate, where he gave answers it removed. The tape makes him look worse than the cut on DRIPA and the deficit, and on the one question he could not answer: what he would cut.

The moment that should stay with voters is twelve minutes in, when the premier said a law was in his platform that is not there. That law shapes how the Province makes decisions on Crown land, which is 94 per cent of British Columbia, and his government’s leaked documents on land transfers never mention the public that uses it. Before you vote, ask the candidate on your ballot the question CBC did not: when Crown land is shared, protected or transferred, who writes down the public’s right to get in? Final Voting Day is today, Saturday 24 October, and polls are scheduled to close at 8 p.m.3,13,20

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David Eby got roasted on CBC the day before the vote. He said DRIPA is “not barely mentioned” in his platform. His platform never names the law that frames decisions on Crown land.

On CBC Radio One’s The Early Edition on 23 October, guest host Lyndsay Duncombe asked the BC NDP leader why DRIPA was barely mentioned in his platform. “It’s not barely mentioned,” he said. The platform page does not contain the word.

A 212-second cut of the interview went viral by lunchtime. We transcribed all 17 minutes from CBC’s audio. Eby owned the cancelled $1,000 grocery rebate. Asked what he would cut next, he named nothing. He said his government beats its deficit forecasts “every year”; in 2023/24 it did not.

No one asked him about public access to Crown land. When he raised the land himself, he said: “British Columbians can have confidence that we are protecting wild spaces.” His costed plan has $0 for backcountry roads, rec sites or Target 8.

Ask your candidate who writes down the public’s right to get in when Crown land is shared or transferred. Final Voting Day is 24 October.

Frames: CBC News. Photos: Dllu, Wpcpey (CC BY-SA 4.0); Canada’s Premiers (public domain).

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Sources

  1. ↩ CBC Radio One, The Early Edition, 23 October 2026, “David Eby: B.C NDP party leader interview,” 17 minutes 41 seconds, with Lyndsay Duncombe of CBC News filling in for the host, Stephen Quinn. Times in this piece are minutes and seconds into CBC’s recording. Our transcript was made from CBC’s own audio file and checked against it. cbc.ca/listen · CBC audio (MP3)
  2. ↩ CBC, program guide, Lyndsay Duncombe: reporter, CBC News, and host, CBC News Network with Lyndsay Duncombe. cbc.ca
  3. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “In 2019 not one MLA voted against DRIPA…,” 23 October 2026: the timeline from the Gitxaala ruling to dissolution, and provincial Crown land as 94% of B.C. backcountry.cx
  4. ↩ BC NDP, “Our plan to build BC strong,” the party’s platform page, saved twice on 23 October 2026, morning and evening. Neither copy contains the words “DRIPA” or “Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.” bcndp.ca/plan
  5. ↩ YouTube, Surrey City News, “David Eby Faces 200 Seconds of Tough Questions from CBC! | BC Politics,” uploaded 23 October 2026 at 12:30 p.m. PDT, 3 minutes 32 seconds. The video carries the logo of Canada Proud and the caption “BC NDP premier David Eby gets REPEATEDLY HUMILIATED by CBC for 200 seconds,” and credits “CBC News, October 23, 2026.” Times given for the clip are into this upload. youtube.com
  6. ↩ The Canadian Press, 13 February 2025, “B.C. cancels $1,000 grocery rebate and pauses some hiring over Trump’s tariff threats”: the rebate promised in the October 2024 campaign, cancelled before it was paid; Finance Minister Brenda Bailey: a “$2-billion expense.” cfjctoday.com · cbc.ca
  7. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “Eby’s costed plan has $0 for backcountry roads, rec sites or Target 8…,” 15 October 2026. backcountry.cx
  8. ↩ Global News, Catherine Urquhart and Amy Judd, 22 October 2026, “Health care a major election issue as B.C. doctor says he’s hit breaking point”: Dr. Kevin McLeod, an internal medicine specialist at Lions Gate Hospital. globalnews.ca
  9. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “Leaders’ debate: Eby’s $1,000 cheque never came…,” 15 October 2026: the claim of $5 billion in uncosted Conservative promises, rated unverifiable. backcountry.cx
  10. ↩ The Canadian Press, 2 April 2026, “Premier Eby says changing DRIPA is ‘non-negotiable’ and will be pushed into law.” Journal of Commerce
  11. ↩ Office of the Premier, statement, 20 April 2026, “Premier’s, First Nations Leadership Council statement about DRIPA.” news.gov.bc.ca
  12. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “DRIPA is the 2019 law that ties B.C.’s laws to the UN Declaration…,” 23 October 2026. backcountry.cx
  13. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “Leaked: Eby’s government plans to transfer about 400…,” 16 October 2026: the leaked Ministry of Forests documents never mention public access. backcountry.cx
  14. ↩ Daily Hive, 22 September 2026, “B.C. NDP MLAs and cabinet ministers not seeking re-election”: Kelly Greene’s letter and the Tilbury approvals the day before; and The Canadian Press via CKPG, 28 July 2026, “Eby defends minister’s dissent on LNG expansion, citing ‘big tent’.” dailyhive.com · ckpgtoday.ca
  15. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “South Peace riders waited 16 months for renewed permits…,” 17 October 2026: Randene Neill, Minister of Water, Land and Resource Stewardship, and Ministerial Order M236. backcountry.cx
  16. ↩ Province of British Columbia, news releases on the Public Accounts: 2023/24 (deficit $5.035 billion, $819 million higher than Budget 2023); 2024/25 ($7.3 billion, $564 million lower than Budget 2024); 2025/26 ($7.7 billion, $3.2 billion lower than Budget 2025, “largely due to a $2.6-billion tobacco settlement” on the revenue side). 2023/24 · 2024/25 · 2025/26
  17. ↩ The Canadian Press, 23 October 2026, “Eby explains B.C. election call, makes his last pitch to voters in sit-down interview”: the snap call as his “biggest regret” of the campaign. vernonmorningstar.com
  18. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “David Eby released his environment plan on a long-weekend Saturday…,” 12 October 2026: the plan’s pledge to “preserve public access” names no road, budget or rule. backcountry.cx
  19. ↩ Backcountry Coalition, “NDP minister Nathan Cullen signed B.C.’s $1-billion 30 by 30 deal…,” 20 October 2026: the agreement never mentions public access. backcountry.cx
  20. ↩ Elections BC, 2026 Provincial General Election: Final Voting Day scheduled for Saturday, 24 October 2026; the Where to Vote application. wheretovote.elections.bc.ca

Sources were read on 23 October 2026. Words are quoted exactly as spoken or published; the highlights are ours. Interview times are minutes and seconds into CBC’s recording. Frames: CBC News, The Early Edition, 23 October 2026, taken from the cut re-uploaded by Surrey City News and cropped to remove its overlays. Photos: the Parliament Buildings at dusk, Dllu, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons; CBC Vancouver’s Regional Broadcast Centre, Wpcpey, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons; and, on the share slides and in the small portrait, David Eby at the Summer Meeting of Canada’s Premiers, July 2026, Canada’s Premiers, public domain, via Wikimedia Commons, cropped.